Sunday, April 10, 2016

the black lady

> Post edited 14th April 2016 (on "perfecti" - scroll down to find it)


Above image - "MILANO BRUCIA" = "MILANO BURNS". A post historical Catholic storyboard, to exorcise 1,000 years old ghosts polluting the nights of the Whore?


"Ariberto in 1028 was engaged in the visit of the suffragan dioceses of Turin: questioning the leader of a religious group suspected of heresy, the archbishop came to know that the people of Monforte d'Alba (now in the province of Cuneo) interpreted allegorically [= usual perfidy of the Catholic Manicheans who throw on the Christians their secret true Gnosticism] the Trinitarian dogma, denied the necessity of the sacraments, and then the clergy: most likely this population had embraced Catharism. In that same year, military forces employed by Aribert stormed the castle of Monforte: the entire population of the area was deported in Milan and invited to recant their faith. Most of them refused and was burned at the stake. The area of Milan where the heretics of Monforte were imprisoned since then bears the name of the country of origin of the victims: Corso Monforte. [4]" http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariberto_da_Intimiano

Quoted in:


Sunday, May 3, 2015
"Cathars, Donatists and Patareni destroying the milano of EXPO" [= XP narrative].
http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2015/05/donatists-and-patareni-destroying.html


Below a translation from:

domenica 24 novembre 2013 Guido Araldo, Presenze catare nel Piemonte altomedievale. I Catari di Monforte 

http://cedocsv.blogspot.it/2013/11/guido-araldo-presenze-catare-nel.html

Warning: the mention of Gnosticism, Essene sects etc. in the below text belong to the Catholic deception. As well the label "heretics" assigned to the Christian churches by a cultural brainwash of the Whore.

Sunday, November 24, 2013Guido Herald, Attendance early medieval Cathar in Piedmont. The Cathars of MonforteAnd dishonest 'now stood a Cathar presence in Piedmont early medieval. Guido Herald tells us of the testimonies we Cuneo from these ancient heretics.Guido HeraldAppearances Cathar in Piedmont altomedievale1. The Cathars of MonforteAn underground wire runs in history and connects the Essenes, Gnostic-Jewish group, the early Christians, then interwoven Bogomils of the Byzantine Empire; later, in the year one thousand, floated from the Bogomils to the Cathars: a wire that went slowly shifting to the West and that, at some point, broke, burned at the stake.The Cathars appeared for the first time in history, as a sudden flower blossomed in the Langhe hills, in the year 1028: in the Middle Ages.But it was really the Langhe? At that time [the Langhes] were the Montes Fortes of the Upper Po Valley and at that time, remember, the Marquise of Susa had no jurisdiction over the Langhe, [which were of ] relevance of the Marquis of Vasto (hereinafter Del Carretto) and of the bishop of Alba.As those heretics were arrived at Monte Forte, it will probably remain a mystery forever! But even then the Cathars put fear for their revolutionary doctrine and the favor which they received from the people as being morally better than the Catholic priests.Disturbing news reached the ears of the Archbishop of Milan, Aribert of Intimiano, maximum ecclesiastical authority of Lombardy, [then it included Lombardy, Piedmont and Emilia] when he arrived on a visit to Turin with a good group of clerics.

 
These are the facts reported by Landolfo the Elder, the Milanese chronicler:"At that time the Archbishop Aribert arrived in Turin accompanied by a host of good clerics and by a troop of valiant warriors; He heard of a not yet heard heresy, that no time had manifested itself in the castle above the village called Mons Fortis. Having heard it, immediately he ordered that he be brought to that castle a man of that heresy, to learn more about the issue. "



Note: "a not yet heard heresy". It could be that it was not the "heresy", aka the doctrine of the persecuted Christians, to be "not yet heard", but the particular slander built on that particular group of Christians, generally labelled as "Puritans" or "Cathars". 

The "bishop" of the Cathars was a certain Gerardo who showed up in the presence of the Archbishop, as he had been ordered. During the interrogation Gerardo struggled to explain the correct orthodoxy of religion he professed and illustrated the structure of religious communities who directed, made up of "Good Men" led by "maiores", which in later verbal Provencal and Occitan would have taken the name of "perfect." 

This is a feature of the Bogomils:

"It is agreed by all the writers who speak of them that their membership was divided into two classes, the Perfecti, or pure ones, and the Credentes, or believers."
 http://maramingsalamatgod.blogspot.it/2015/11/the-bogomils-of-bulgaria-and-bosnia_23.html
 
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Why "perfecti"? Could it be that the bogomils, cathars, waldenses called their preachers "perfect" because they attempted to fulfill 2 Timothy 2:15-17?

by C. Stilyianov, in:
сряда, 13 април 2016 г.
bogomil black anarchists - Jirecek
http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2016/04/bogomil-black-anarchists-jirecek.html

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 But about the sacraments given in his community, Gerardo refused to make mention. The answers do not calmed the high priest that further worried and went to the Marquise of Susa to invoke the intervention of the secular arm to pursue those heretics. We do not know in what spirit the Countess seconded the request of the archbishop; but a troop of his armed men went to Monte Forte under arrest and took many men and women accused of the heresy of Bogomils. About the countess who gave them hospitality, known as "the black lady", her  fate is unknown ; but apparently she was not among the prisoners, including many women, led in chains in the city of Milan.





About the color black, see Stiliyanov's:


"Pitch Black":




петък, 20 ноември 2015 г.
Woe to those who say God is the Devil
http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2015/11/woe-to-those-who-say-god-is-devil.html

 



Later, during the trial, it was an option for heretics to repent and return to the fold of the Holy Roman Church, but few agreed and gave up their religious convictions. It seems that even many of them were running happily toward the fires, desirous of punishment like the early Christian martyrs during the pagan persecution. A behavior that caused a sensation, and since then the district of Milan where the Cathars were burned was called "Borgo Monforte."

 
The religious beliefs of the Cathars remained largely unknown, since the inquisitors who pursued them were careful to make a clean sweep. The only available documents concerning sporadic interrogations during the terrible Inquisition, which relentlessly wiped them off the face of the earth, by going to flush them out in castles eagle nest on high cliffs or in more secluded and wild Pyrenean valleys. Famous remained the long siege at Montsegur, the castle considered
uncatchable.After the events of Monte Forte, in fact, there was a long silence until, after one hundred and fifty, a faint light opened a gash in the darkness of history: these were the years between 1166 and 1169 :. Note: the years of Waldo, the elusive character who is alleged to have started the "Waldensian sect". A fabrication of Rome?


 A notary of Avignon addressed a certain Marcus, perhaps from Lombardy (at the time was known as the Piedmont Lombardy Top or Western), which he converted to the "pure doctrine", to go "to Rocavien et est locus apud Cuneum, ubi stabant Cathars, here venerant de France et habitandum ibi "  [=]  " in Roccavione and this location is near Cuneo, where they were the Cathars who came from France and live there. " (A Dondaine: The hiérarchie cathare en Italie, II, from 'Tractatus de ereticis "d'Anselme in Alexandria, written between 1267 and 1270, kept at the Archivium Fratrum Predicatorum, XX (1950), p. 308. )I believe it is the earliest mention of Cuneo.

9 comments:

  1. " Note: "a not yet heard heresy". It could be that it was not the "heresy", aka the doctrine of the persecuted Christians, to be "not yet heard", but the particular slander built on that particular group of Christians, generally labelled as "Puritans" or "Cathars". "

    I read in a book somewhere [cant find it or limit reached on google] on how there was strange lack of documentation on the manichaeism of the recently arrived bogomils in kievan Rus (i think 11 or 12 century), which the author explained with the inexperience of the local church in dealing with and recognizing heresy.

    They couldn't recognize gnosticism/manichaeism???!!!

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    1. The name "Bogomil" in Ukraine:

      http://www.locatemyname.com/ukraine/Bogomil

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    2. If you have stomach, because to read those "scholars" to talk about the Bogomil "heresy" is like to see in those movies Nazi doctors talking about their victims of vivisection in the extermination camps:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABogomilism

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    3. Catholic slander:

      "The name of the movement was bulgarus in Latin (meaning "Bulgarian"), which included Paulicians, Cathars, Patarenes and Albigenses. It became boulgre, later bougre in Old French meaning "heretic, traitor". It entered German as Buger meaning "peasant, blockhead" (and went on to English as bugger) and the French term also entered old Italian as buggero and Spanish as bujarrón, both in the meaning of "sodomite", since it was supposed that heretics would approach sex (just like everything else) in an "inverse" way. The word went on towards Venetian Italian as buzerar, meaning "to do sodomy" (the sexual acts performed by homosexuals). This word entered German again (see reborrowing) as Buserant and went on to Hungarian as buzeráns, becoming buzi around the 1900s, a form still in use as a sexual slur for male homosexuals. The word also entered Swedish, through the mediation of August Strindberg[citation needed], as bög, meaning male homosexual."
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABogomilism

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    4. One of the most notorious inquisitors was Robert Le Bougre, a former cathar = bulgarian, even Osokin accepts that theory, that he went into Milano and in the course of 20 years gradually came to admire St Dominic and became a fierce burner of cathars:


      The inquisitors were, as a rule, irreproachable, not merely in personal conduct, but in the administration of their office. Some, however, like Robert le Bougre, a Bulgarian (Catharist) convert to Christianity and subsequently a Dominican, seem to have yielded to a blind fanaticism and deliberately to have provoked executions en masse. On 29 May, 1239, at Montwimer in Champagne, Robert consigned to the flames at one time about a hundred and eighty persons, whose trial had begun and ended within one week. Later, when Rome found that the complaints against him were justified, he was first deposed and then incarcerated for life.
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      http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm

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    5. "The inquisitors were, as a rule, irreproachable, not merely in personal conduct, but in the administration of their office"

      Indeed, they were little white lambs who burned the wolves

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    6. Romes logic would have Paul and Barnabas labelled sodomites. But in the apostle's times sodomy was openly practiced, so the pagans then sticked to the slander of "sedition" and "misanthropy"

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    7. "One of the most notorious inquisitors was Robert Le Bougre, a former cathar = bulgarian, "

      But are we sure that all such inquisitors, converted from "heresy" to Catholicism, were really originally "heretic", and not only a false, fabricated biography to prop up the weakness of "heretic" doctrines?

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    8. I don't know. People apostasise from all churches at all times. IFBs, Protestants, Presbys, if you watch EWTN's "journey home", testimonies of all kinds of people turned catholic, you have all kinds. Lets not forget Judas too.

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